President Trump's recent announcements in favor of IVF and against heartbeat bills (as "too short") are alienating the people central to his base, and will undermine the goals that he wants to achieve.
His stance makes little sense. One of the reasons he enjoys such strong support among Christian conservatives is because of what he was able to accomplish in regards to abortion in his first term. To now take an opposite opinion (yes, yes, I know the argument that he wants to leave it up to the states) is basically a slap in the face to these supporters.
And, like I said, it makes little sense. He will not win over one single voter with his current pandering. No one who supports abortion or IVF is going to vote for him because he is backtracking. On the other hand, he could very well lose many supporters and many votes because of it. Whoever is telling him to do this is an idiot. Hopefully, it's not his idea...
It's not an opposite opinion Jason. He's pro-life and he's done more for the movement than any other President in recent memory. Are you going to deny that so a left-wing radical administration is given our American power for 4 more years?
The very fact that we're talking about it is evidence to how dumb it is. His pro-life stance was his strongest argument for many conservatives. The fact that he made it an issue by weaving doubt into his statements is just idiotic. I will still vote for him, but I have no idea how others will vote. Neither does he now. That's my point.
Good pint but the fact of the matter is his policy position hasn't changed. He opposed Roe as bad law and barbaric, wanted the issue sent back to the states. AMAZIGLY pulled it off. Got rid of the National abomination. Something pro-life marchers dreamed about and prayed for for generations. He did it by appointing actual Justices who know and write actual law not make-believe legal fiction. He always supported exceptions like most conservative Republican politicians. IVF is a new issue. But it squares with his particular pro-life understanding. he's not a conservative Catholic. I'm stating the obvious. He'll never support a national ban. That would contradict his Roe stance. We have nothing to complain about. Our job is to catechize the Nation and particularly women with the truth of the culture of life Not force law on them like the elites did for generations.
I fear that, if Trump loses, it will all be because of this (and we will not be able to say it was not well-deserved). No one wants to elect a candidate with an unsure stance. Trump seems to want to keep his 2016 base and seems to want his campaign to be the same as it was then, but he is betraying his original voters in order to win. The very reason why Donald Trump was elected in the first place was because he did not seem to care about what other Republicans did. And I'm not just saying this about his stance on abortion (because his "leave it to the state" argument existed even before 2016), it's about everything. Things are different. I think if Trump wins this year, it will be because of everything the present administration has done to him during the past 4 years, not because his campaign was great.
If we lose, it's bc of our sinful ways!! And even if we win, the Evil Dems have several cards up their sleeve! Is pretty much a lose lose again- bc of our sin! Not just America but the WORLD!
our moral concerns are justfied, but the very existence of our nation is at stake. I know you're aware of that, and I'm sure you, Sarah, value American Liberty more than many native-born Americans do.
Donald Trump needs to win this election. Period. If he does not win, IVF will be the least of our concerns. Perhaps not "the least," but you understand my point. Our Constitution is in tatters, and every aspect of our society is under DIRECT assault. Please don't whip up anti-Trump sentiment unnecessarily.
You know, like I know, that Trump is being FORCED to tack to the center. The lying Communist representative for the Globalist Leftist cabal/machine is doing exactly that (on steroids), and far too many Americans are low-information enough to buy her lies. Worse than that, I many on the left are not able to think for themselves. They live in a fantasy bubble and do whatever their God, The Democrat Party, commands. Trump has no choice but to counteract that, by attempting to win some of those dimwitted votes.
So please be smart. Acknowledge how disgusting and deceptive the game of Politics has become. Advise people of Christian Faith to HOLD THEIR FIRE (and their noses, ha) and Stay the Course. We must vote, we must ENCOURAGE others of good conscience to vote, and every vote must be for Donald Trump. Good will prevail. Consider all the unexpected missteps by the Left, and all the amazing blessings upon Trump and the Conservative Cause. God is definitely in this. HAVE FAITH and confront the Evil by supporting Trump with your vote and your cash campaign contributions, if possible.
I agree with You.......You should write a letter directly to Trump explaining the issue;s, I believe He will listen and understand...........God Bless You and Your work!
Right, leave it to the states but 6 weeks is too short is not coherent. Trump - Vance are offering us the lesser of two evils. But, The underlying cause of the fertility issue needs to be addressed - widespread metabolic disorder caused by 72 vaccines at birth through infancy, big MD partnered with the prescription drug industry, FDA, and USDA, a poisoned food supply, gov subsidized ultra processed foods, the major harmful ingredients are covered under the farm bill, high fructose corn syrup, soybean etc processed oils, gmo wheat and grains, but farm fresh foods are called out absurdly on social justice grounds. Tucker did a good interview with Calley and Casey Means covering these problems and how to fix them. JFK jr can advise on the medical issues but where is the right to life adviser in the Trump campaign? We do need to argue our position intelligently. Even Antonin Scalia said the law was in effect for 50 years. We can't change it over night without forcing it on the public. We must persuade, fight, and lead by example.
Many people do not know, and I myself just found out, that Trump has, in the past, donated to Kamala Harris when she was in California. He donated to the Clinton's (who he is friends with) and he was a registered Democrat until he ran in 2016. If one is a Christian in any way, shape or form, you MUST be against the slaughter of innocent children...Period! There is no grey area here. No extenuating circumstances. In my belief Trump is not a Christian. He talks a good game in front of the cameras but I do not see a man of God. He's been a Democrat his whole life and I don't see a change in the pattern. In his first term he did not make Mexico pay for the wall. Heck! He didn't even finish it. He removed us from the Paris accord and the Pacific rim treaty and allowed the XL addition to begin. But these were all things he knew would be reversed as soon as he left. And he knew he was leaving. He knew the virus was a hoax and that it would be used to steal the election. That was his out. He could have stopped the steal but did nothing. And now he holds rally after rally knowing full well he's not going back to the White House. He still thinks his bioweapon shots are the greatest thing since the wheel but never speaks of the (at least) 35 million it's killed. No thank you. I cannot support the Pied Piper.
Harris is a million times worse George, I'm sure you are aware of that. Being a man of God isn't a requirement for President of the United States and there is and never will be a perfect candidate. I agree with much of what you say but suggesting trump is not by far the better leader, much better for the Country, and better choice is just untenable.
Yes Harris is worse there's no doubt. But I cannot subscribe to the lesser of to evils mantra that I hear every four years. I will do as I've always done and that's vote my conscious. I will vote third party. Will my vote count? Probably not. But a vote for Trump will most definitely be weight rated, switched or flat out deleted like last time. And since not one state where audits took place has done anything to secure elections, voting is no different than banging one's head against the wall.
Interesting. What state may I ask? And even though I used the term - it's not really a lesser of 2 evils circumstance - it's a much, much more stark contrast than that if we are being practical: Keep in mind - with Trump you get No war, or quick no nonsense victory without leaving behind billions of dollars in US equipment - or giving over hube strategic air bases; An actual competitive economy with a real job market and no inflation, low energy costs, low interest rates... respect around the world, no trans nonsense - etc etc -- I think you get it. It's more like Night and Day.
Arizona completed an audit and conclusively found fraud. They did nothing to secure anything and then Kari Lake had the gubernatorial election stolen from her. The economy was certainly better under Trump but when will he take responsibility for those 35 million deaths from the shots he allowed to be fast tracked?
He'll probably take responsibility for that when the real culprits who advised him take responsibility. Trump is not an MD. Those that lied and scammed are the criminals. If not for Trump and lake, you would not likely even know the AZ election fraud exists and neither would most who now know and hence can now do something about it. Why not get in that camp.
Everyone knew there was fraud the day after the election. I know I certainly did. And just what camp are you in exactly? The one where everyone continues to make excuses for the man who invested millions in Pfizer just before the hoax was launched? Millions are dead because of him. There are no excuses for that.
The Catholic Church has abused living children for decades. They are hardly in a position to condemn others for anything. The so-called “Catholic charities” is aiding the invasion of this country making millions in the process. Will you not vote for Trump due to his stance for IVF? This is not a perfect world. I am against abortion and compassionate towards those who seek IVF due to infertility. The CV shot, some of which used “human cell lines,” very likely damaged human DNA and fertility. Do you condemn those who took the shot?
The fact that individuals within the Church engaged in heinous acts has no bearing on the fact that we should not engage in other heinous acts now. We should speak against Trump whenever he has stances that are immoral, not stay silent and hope that he changes them due to telepathy. He has listened to his base before, hopefully he will again. And I advocated against those shots too, yes.
I commend you on your ability to face reality and not avoid “uncomfortable” facts about the purported “knight on the white horse” who is to restore our society.
This nation has been, and continues to be, governed by Progressive-Socialist-Communists forces for decades which has culminated in their unveiling in the 2016-2020 coup.
Failing to take into consideration this overarching communist influence when enumerating the ills and destruction of our institutions, including the Church, leaves us always on the defensive and never comprehending the totality of the strategic war against us. We fail to realize that our elections are meaningless in face of a communist coup. The communists hold the power, why should they give it up? Trump won overwhelming in 2020, and yet was never allowed to govern. What has changed to make 2024 different?
An unbiased review of 2016-2020 shows an administration that was crippled and unable to govern with any lasting effect as Mr. Schadel notes.
Looking at the current situation as to Trump’s endorsements, advisers, and campaign statements, it is difficult not to believe that Trump either has been turned or he was installed in 2016 to allow the controlling elite to consolidate power for their complete takeover. The 2024 election is all theater to keep the masses preoccupied and work off energy, as well as to keep them distracted from the massive invasion of illegals that is taking place in our nation.
Sadly, Trump's positions on the social issues reflect the broader culture we live in. There aren't enough people who still believe what the Catholic Church teaches about marriage and sexuality. The contraceptive mentality imbedded in us decades ago has led to the views that marriage is an arrangement not a covenant and children are a choice not a gift. He may be thinking that his economic, foreign and immigration policies may distinguish himself enough from the democrats to get himself elected.
FU - it is NOT a biology experiment. It is a mechanism for couples - both young and old to conceive children. Everyone has a right to their relligous bellief, BUT until YOU at the one trying desperatly to have a child - a BIG FU to you and your narrow minded religoin that have an ENORMOUS amount of PEDOFILES as priests/conveyers of GOD.
You need to speak to a or several couples that have resorted to IVF to have a child.........THEN you can make immature comments about a "Biology Experimaent.
God Bless my SON!
FU and your opinion. Even though you are etiltled to iit, as AM I!
I understand how the left looks to government for the solution to every problem, but it always surprises me that quite often the conservative right does as well.
The real problem with abortion, is not the law, or a particular politician’s stance, it is with the moral education of the people. It should not be the government’s role to educate people on morals. And moral education will not come from implementing laws. In fact in our system of government, laws come AFTER the moral education of most of the people. This is why the laws on abortion vary greatly now from state to state - the moral education of the people (or put another way, the moral lacking of the people) varies greatly based on geography.
Decrying a particular politician’s stance on a moral issue will not advance the moral education of the people of the country.
If you want to solve the problem, think about how we can educate the majority of people to see the value and dignity in all human life. (And no, converting everyone to Catholicism is not the answer.)
Certainly, it's difficult to understand why Trump has even raised the subject of I.V.F.
There can be no doubt that this stance, as well as his dismissal of Florida's 6-weeks law, will lose him votes to third party candidates and will win him none.
It might well be enough, along with the expected vote tampering, to lose him election.
He really does need to announce a change of stance on these matters. Abraham Lincoln was once challenged about having changed his mind. He responded along the lines that he expected every man to be wiser today than he was yesterday.
Those who recommend voting for Trump because when he gets into power he won't do as he's now promising are perhaps worse than Trump himself.
Trump only had an opportunity to keep Hillary out of office because although he is good for the existential threat to whatever brain disease these sick individuals have, he is no real threat to the pac monies. He is controlled opposition whether he knows it or not.
His stance makes little sense. One of the reasons he enjoys such strong support among Christian conservatives is because of what he was able to accomplish in regards to abortion in his first term. To now take an opposite opinion (yes, yes, I know the argument that he wants to leave it up to the states) is basically a slap in the face to these supporters.
And, like I said, it makes little sense. He will not win over one single voter with his current pandering. No one who supports abortion or IVF is going to vote for him because he is backtracking. On the other hand, he could very well lose many supporters and many votes because of it. Whoever is telling him to do this is an idiot. Hopefully, it's not his idea...
We only have 2 choices this Nov.! Either Communism or Trump.
Trump isn't perfect by any means, no president ever was but he's the only choice I'm voting for.
I'm totally against abortion but I and my family don't want to live in a Democrat Communist regime, PERIOD!!
True, but it doesn't mean we can't and shouldn't make our opinions known and hold him accountable.
It's not an opposite opinion Jason. He's pro-life and he's done more for the movement than any other President in recent memory. Are you going to deny that so a left-wing radical administration is given our American power for 4 more years?
The very fact that we're talking about it is evidence to how dumb it is. His pro-life stance was his strongest argument for many conservatives. The fact that he made it an issue by weaving doubt into his statements is just idiotic. I will still vote for him, but I have no idea how others will vote. Neither does he now. That's my point.
Good pint but the fact of the matter is his policy position hasn't changed. He opposed Roe as bad law and barbaric, wanted the issue sent back to the states. AMAZIGLY pulled it off. Got rid of the National abomination. Something pro-life marchers dreamed about and prayed for for generations. He did it by appointing actual Justices who know and write actual law not make-believe legal fiction. He always supported exceptions like most conservative Republican politicians. IVF is a new issue. But it squares with his particular pro-life understanding. he's not a conservative Catholic. I'm stating the obvious. He'll never support a national ban. That would contradict his Roe stance. We have nothing to complain about. Our job is to catechize the Nation and particularly women with the truth of the culture of life Not force law on them like the elites did for generations.
I fear that, if Trump loses, it will all be because of this (and we will not be able to say it was not well-deserved). No one wants to elect a candidate with an unsure stance. Trump seems to want to keep his 2016 base and seems to want his campaign to be the same as it was then, but he is betraying his original voters in order to win. The very reason why Donald Trump was elected in the first place was because he did not seem to care about what other Republicans did. And I'm not just saying this about his stance on abortion (because his "leave it to the state" argument existed even before 2016), it's about everything. Things are different. I think if Trump wins this year, it will be because of everything the present administration has done to him during the past 4 years, not because his campaign was great.
If we lose, it's bc of our sinful ways!! And even if we win, the Evil Dems have several cards up their sleeve! Is pretty much a lose lose again- bc of our sin! Not just America but the WORLD!
Be smart. Take the long view.
our moral concerns are justfied, but the very existence of our nation is at stake. I know you're aware of that, and I'm sure you, Sarah, value American Liberty more than many native-born Americans do.
Donald Trump needs to win this election. Period. If he does not win, IVF will be the least of our concerns. Perhaps not "the least," but you understand my point. Our Constitution is in tatters, and every aspect of our society is under DIRECT assault. Please don't whip up anti-Trump sentiment unnecessarily.
You know, like I know, that Trump is being FORCED to tack to the center. The lying Communist representative for the Globalist Leftist cabal/machine is doing exactly that (on steroids), and far too many Americans are low-information enough to buy her lies. Worse than that, I many on the left are not able to think for themselves. They live in a fantasy bubble and do whatever their God, The Democrat Party, commands. Trump has no choice but to counteract that, by attempting to win some of those dimwitted votes.
So please be smart. Acknowledge how disgusting and deceptive the game of Politics has become. Advise people of Christian Faith to HOLD THEIR FIRE (and their noses, ha) and Stay the Course. We must vote, we must ENCOURAGE others of good conscience to vote, and every vote must be for Donald Trump. Good will prevail. Consider all the unexpected missteps by the Left, and all the amazing blessings upon Trump and the Conservative Cause. God is definitely in this. HAVE FAITH and confront the Evil by supporting Trump with your vote and your cash campaign contributions, if possible.
We're all in this together.
Soli Deo Gloria
I agree with You.......You should write a letter directly to Trump explaining the issue;s, I believe He will listen and understand...........God Bless You and Your work!
Right, leave it to the states but 6 weeks is too short is not coherent. Trump - Vance are offering us the lesser of two evils. But, The underlying cause of the fertility issue needs to be addressed - widespread metabolic disorder caused by 72 vaccines at birth through infancy, big MD partnered with the prescription drug industry, FDA, and USDA, a poisoned food supply, gov subsidized ultra processed foods, the major harmful ingredients are covered under the farm bill, high fructose corn syrup, soybean etc processed oils, gmo wheat and grains, but farm fresh foods are called out absurdly on social justice grounds. Tucker did a good interview with Calley and Casey Means covering these problems and how to fix them. JFK jr can advise on the medical issues but where is the right to life adviser in the Trump campaign? We do need to argue our position intelligently. Even Antonin Scalia said the law was in effect for 50 years. We can't change it over night without forcing it on the public. We must persuade, fight, and lead by example.
Many people do not know, and I myself just found out, that Trump has, in the past, donated to Kamala Harris when she was in California. He donated to the Clinton's (who he is friends with) and he was a registered Democrat until he ran in 2016. If one is a Christian in any way, shape or form, you MUST be against the slaughter of innocent children...Period! There is no grey area here. No extenuating circumstances. In my belief Trump is not a Christian. He talks a good game in front of the cameras but I do not see a man of God. He's been a Democrat his whole life and I don't see a change in the pattern. In his first term he did not make Mexico pay for the wall. Heck! He didn't even finish it. He removed us from the Paris accord and the Pacific rim treaty and allowed the XL addition to begin. But these were all things he knew would be reversed as soon as he left. And he knew he was leaving. He knew the virus was a hoax and that it would be used to steal the election. That was his out. He could have stopped the steal but did nothing. And now he holds rally after rally knowing full well he's not going back to the White House. He still thinks his bioweapon shots are the greatest thing since the wheel but never speaks of the (at least) 35 million it's killed. No thank you. I cannot support the Pied Piper.
Harris is a million times worse George, I'm sure you are aware of that. Being a man of God isn't a requirement for President of the United States and there is and never will be a perfect candidate. I agree with much of what you say but suggesting trump is not by far the better leader, much better for the Country, and better choice is just untenable.
Yes Harris is worse there's no doubt. But I cannot subscribe to the lesser of to evils mantra that I hear every four years. I will do as I've always done and that's vote my conscious. I will vote third party. Will my vote count? Probably not. But a vote for Trump will most definitely be weight rated, switched or flat out deleted like last time. And since not one state where audits took place has done anything to secure elections, voting is no different than banging one's head against the wall.
Interesting. What state may I ask? And even though I used the term - it's not really a lesser of 2 evils circumstance - it's a much, much more stark contrast than that if we are being practical: Keep in mind - with Trump you get No war, or quick no nonsense victory without leaving behind billions of dollars in US equipment - or giving over hube strategic air bases; An actual competitive economy with a real job market and no inflation, low energy costs, low interest rates... respect around the world, no trans nonsense - etc etc -- I think you get it. It's more like Night and Day.
Arizona completed an audit and conclusively found fraud. They did nothing to secure anything and then Kari Lake had the gubernatorial election stolen from her. The economy was certainly better under Trump but when will he take responsibility for those 35 million deaths from the shots he allowed to be fast tracked?
He'll probably take responsibility for that when the real culprits who advised him take responsibility. Trump is not an MD. Those that lied and scammed are the criminals. If not for Trump and lake, you would not likely even know the AZ election fraud exists and neither would most who now know and hence can now do something about it. Why not get in that camp.
Everyone knew there was fraud the day after the election. I know I certainly did. And just what camp are you in exactly? The one where everyone continues to make excuses for the man who invested millions in Pfizer just before the hoax was launched? Millions are dead because of him. There are no excuses for that.
The Catholic Church has abused living children for decades. They are hardly in a position to condemn others for anything. The so-called “Catholic charities” is aiding the invasion of this country making millions in the process. Will you not vote for Trump due to his stance for IVF? This is not a perfect world. I am against abortion and compassionate towards those who seek IVF due to infertility. The CV shot, some of which used “human cell lines,” very likely damaged human DNA and fertility. Do you condemn those who took the shot?
The fact that individuals within the Church engaged in heinous acts has no bearing on the fact that we should not engage in other heinous acts now. We should speak against Trump whenever he has stances that are immoral, not stay silent and hope that he changes them due to telepathy. He has listened to his base before, hopefully he will again. And I advocated against those shots too, yes.
Reply to George Schadel:
I commend you on your ability to face reality and not avoid “uncomfortable” facts about the purported “knight on the white horse” who is to restore our society.
This nation has been, and continues to be, governed by Progressive-Socialist-Communists forces for decades which has culminated in their unveiling in the 2016-2020 coup.
Failing to take into consideration this overarching communist influence when enumerating the ills and destruction of our institutions, including the Church, leaves us always on the defensive and never comprehending the totality of the strategic war against us. We fail to realize that our elections are meaningless in face of a communist coup. The communists hold the power, why should they give it up? Trump won overwhelming in 2020, and yet was never allowed to govern. What has changed to make 2024 different?
An unbiased review of 2016-2020 shows an administration that was crippled and unable to govern with any lasting effect as Mr. Schadel notes.
Looking at the current situation as to Trump’s endorsements, advisers, and campaign statements, it is difficult not to believe that Trump either has been turned or he was installed in 2016 to allow the controlling elite to consolidate power for their complete takeover. The 2024 election is all theater to keep the masses preoccupied and work off energy, as well as to keep them distracted from the massive invasion of illegals that is taking place in our nation.
It is not love that produces the male erection.
Sadly, Trump's positions on the social issues reflect the broader culture we live in. There aren't enough people who still believe what the Catholic Church teaches about marriage and sexuality. The contraceptive mentality imbedded in us decades ago has led to the views that marriage is an arrangement not a covenant and children are a choice not a gift. He may be thinking that his economic, foreign and immigration policies may distinguish himself enough from the democrats to get himself elected.
FU - it is NOT a biology experiment. It is a mechanism for couples - both young and old to conceive children. Everyone has a right to their relligous bellief, BUT until YOU at the one trying desperatly to have a child - a BIG FU to you and your narrow minded religoin that have an ENORMOUS amount of PEDOFILES as priests/conveyers of GOD.
You need to speak to a or several couples that have resorted to IVF to have a child.........THEN you can make immature comments about a "Biology Experimaent.
God Bless my SON!
FU and your opinion. Even though you are etiltled to iit, as AM I!
Gary
Does the end justify the means?
I understand how the left looks to government for the solution to every problem, but it always surprises me that quite often the conservative right does as well.
The real problem with abortion, is not the law, or a particular politician’s stance, it is with the moral education of the people. It should not be the government’s role to educate people on morals. And moral education will not come from implementing laws. In fact in our system of government, laws come AFTER the moral education of most of the people. This is why the laws on abortion vary greatly now from state to state - the moral education of the people (or put another way, the moral lacking of the people) varies greatly based on geography.
Decrying a particular politician’s stance on a moral issue will not advance the moral education of the people of the country.
If you want to solve the problem, think about how we can educate the majority of people to see the value and dignity in all human life. (And no, converting everyone to Catholicism is not the answer.)
Then what is the "source material" for moral education?
You write, Sarah, "a child has the right to be born as a product of the loving union of his mother and father’s embrace".
Regrettably, sweet lady, the appalling birth rate would be very much worse if only such children were born.
It is lust not love that enables the conception of a child, within marriage or without. In this regard, lust has been given a bad press.
Lust is a form of nihilism. It is the use of the other person with no regard for that person. Love enables humanity to transcend evil.
Certainly, it's difficult to understand why Trump has even raised the subject of I.V.F.
There can be no doubt that this stance, as well as his dismissal of Florida's 6-weeks law, will lose him votes to third party candidates and will win him none.
It might well be enough, along with the expected vote tampering, to lose him election.
He really does need to announce a change of stance on these matters. Abraham Lincoln was once challenged about having changed his mind. He responded along the lines that he expected every man to be wiser today than he was yesterday.
Those who recommend voting for Trump because when he gets into power he won't do as he's now promising are perhaps worse than Trump himself.
Trump only had an opportunity to keep Hillary out of office because although he is good for the existential threat to whatever brain disease these sick individuals have, he is no real threat to the pac monies. He is controlled opposition whether he knows it or not.
Thanks & get well soon! Semper Fidelis