With charity, I think it's difficult for us to communicate about this topic because we come from such a vastly different viewpoint. Please permit me to try.
I think you present a false dichotomy because you see Islamic dress of women and modernity's dress of women to be opposites. I see them as similar. Both of them reduce a woman's value…
With charity, I think it's difficult for us to communicate about this topic because we come from such a vastly different viewpoint. Please permit me to try.
I think you present a false dichotomy because you see Islamic dress of women and modernity's dress of women to be opposites. I see them as similar. Both of them reduce a woman's value to that of a sex object. In modernity's lack of modesty, the woman maximally shows her skin and presents herself in sexual ways because that is what is seen as her value. In Islam, the woman is covered from head to toe and hidden from the world because she is sex object, but only for her husband.
The appropriate and modest attire recognizes that she has an innate dignity and that she should be respected as a human being made in the image and likeness of God. Thus, the clothing neither seeks to hide her completely nor to efface her dignity.
To help the analysis I'll give you a concrete example Ann Coulter.
She doesn't hide her physical attributes in clothing by wearing short miniskirts. Does she looks as a sex object?isn't it a beacon to discover her personality better by reading what she has to say?
IMO is a very inteligent strategy that just shows how strong she really is, and powerful men ( example Trump) are really afraid of those kind of women that in the past were burnt as witches by your Catholic piers.
Both of them reduce a woman's value to that of a sex object.
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I disagree the " Islamic way" makes a woman a non person in the street, the "Western way" makes her empowered, is like a beacon, It doesn't say " it's easy to sleep with me" It says " I'm here pretty, and good looking".
It's impossible to know a person's character before talking or some kind of 2 way communication, so looking like a " sex object" Is just religious talking.
My main point is, as modern religions (judaism, islam, Christianity) were mainly design to reflect the power structure in those societies mostly patriarchies, it's easy to understand that beauty is one of the most powerful weapon of women in general so religions tried to subdue that power by hiding it.
It's not by mistake that they declare that Eve was the guilty one by making Adam eat the forbidden fruit. So the power of Eve (beauty) must be subdued.
Yes It's not an easy topic, but let me tell that seeing another human being as a sex object or not is in the eye of the beholder.
Not so long ago, the women dressing in rural Western europe, especially Catholic countries, was not so different from the islamic one, and i'm not talking about burkas but veils, and the dark color of clothing in general. A woman showing her knees in those times was morally worse than seeing a woman in a miniskirt or even topless now.
I wish we never go back to those times again, when a woman had to think 1000 times before choosing her clothes with fear of being perceived as a slut.
As I said i'm a non believer, but I suppose that judging a person mainly by what he/she wears should be a sin.
With charity, I think it's difficult for us to communicate about this topic because we come from such a vastly different viewpoint. Please permit me to try.
I think you present a false dichotomy because you see Islamic dress of women and modernity's dress of women to be opposites. I see them as similar. Both of them reduce a woman's value to that of a sex object. In modernity's lack of modesty, the woman maximally shows her skin and presents herself in sexual ways because that is what is seen as her value. In Islam, the woman is covered from head to toe and hidden from the world because she is sex object, but only for her husband.
The appropriate and modest attire recognizes that she has an innate dignity and that she should be respected as a human being made in the image and likeness of God. Thus, the clothing neither seeks to hide her completely nor to efface her dignity.
To help the analysis I'll give you a concrete example Ann Coulter.
She doesn't hide her physical attributes in clothing by wearing short miniskirts. Does she looks as a sex object?isn't it a beacon to discover her personality better by reading what she has to say?
IMO is a very inteligent strategy that just shows how strong she really is, and powerful men ( example Trump) are really afraid of those kind of women that in the past were burnt as witches by your Catholic piers.
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Both of them reduce a woman's value to that of a sex object.
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I disagree the " Islamic way" makes a woman a non person in the street, the "Western way" makes her empowered, is like a beacon, It doesn't say " it's easy to sleep with me" It says " I'm here pretty, and good looking".
It's impossible to know a person's character before talking or some kind of 2 way communication, so looking like a " sex object" Is just religious talking.
Religions are obsessed with sex.
My main point is, as modern religions (judaism, islam, Christianity) were mainly design to reflect the power structure in those societies mostly patriarchies, it's easy to understand that beauty is one of the most powerful weapon of women in general so religions tried to subdue that power by hiding it.
It's not by mistake that they declare that Eve was the guilty one by making Adam eat the forbidden fruit. So the power of Eve (beauty) must be subdued.
Yes It's not an easy topic, but let me tell that seeing another human being as a sex object or not is in the eye of the beholder.
Not so long ago, the women dressing in rural Western europe, especially Catholic countries, was not so different from the islamic one, and i'm not talking about burkas but veils, and the dark color of clothing in general. A woman showing her knees in those times was morally worse than seeing a woman in a miniskirt or even topless now.
I wish we never go back to those times again, when a woman had to think 1000 times before choosing her clothes with fear of being perceived as a slut.
As I said i'm a non believer, but I suppose that judging a person mainly by what he/she wears should be a sin.